Dr. Kenwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and Biohacking


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Hey, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this podcast is all about an incredible story of overcoming most cancers and likewise about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and likewise turning into a magnificence queen. And the rationale that she truly did that and the way she used that platform to indicate her scars and to indicate her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside together with her most cancers analysis and to carry consciousness. She additionally talks so much about some taboo subjects. we speak about sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually stunning statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and likewise methods to assist enhance them. So, undoubtedly, a fact-packed episode, her story is actually unimaginable. And with out additional ado, let’s be part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks as if you have got each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which might be extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to begin broad, I’ve learn that you’ve got a extremely, actually attention-grabbing and wonderful story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a analysis of in some unspecified time in the future of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually stunning and empowering and wonderful. So can we begin by studying somewhat extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump once I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional threat elements, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be somewhat perplexed as a result of I assumed it was in regards to the affected person, not the, , the numbers. So it took numerous convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They bought an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very mistaken. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was mistaken and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a unique hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can actually say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I would like ladies and even males to know that once they really feel that there’s one thing mistaken with them, that they need to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you now. And nonetheless, , this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a selection. I might let most cancers defeat me or I might make it about one thing larger than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to hitch a magnificence pageant. Now it’s possible you’ll surprise why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I actually consider that if you happen to assume it’ll defeat you, it completely will. You’re proper come what may.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to hitch Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to reside their greatest life despite most cancers. To point out them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less stunning, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It could have been straightforward to take action, but it surely was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t carry myself to put on it as a result of I needed to talk my fact. And once I received Miss Florida, it was an enormous win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any type. So, in so some ways, , my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very glad as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s wonderful. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves relating to medical care. And I had an analogous expertise in a a lot much less ominous analysis, however I, for years, knew one thing was mistaken and would go to docs and ask for checks. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was informed, “Properly, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of these items are regular postpartum. Your ranges are advantageous.” They usually have been solely testing, in fact, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a analysis that then helped me get better. And also you hear about this so much within the medical world. And sadly, it looks as if it typically occurs extra to ladies than males actually because I believe many research are accomplished on males as a result of they’re simpler to check.

However I believe…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I believe the perfect outcomes, and also you may agree from a physician’s perspective, occur when you have got a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and likewise desirous to work with a practitioner as a companion in enhancing their very own well being. And the opposite factor you stated that I believe is so essential on this and in actually, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept that if you happen to assume one thing will defeat you, it’ll. And likewise if in case you have a constructive mindset, that goes such a good distance towards the restoration. How essential do you assume that mindset piece was for you and for different individuals in the identical state of affairs?

Dr. Bawa: I really like what you stated as a result of so many docs aren’t testing you absolutely, even when they do take a look at you. And I’m so glad that you just have been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was mistaken. And so far as mindset is worried, mindset in my case was all the things. And this will appear dramatic, however this can be a true incident. I had some issues throughout my most cancers therapy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges have been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And one in all my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we rotated. And once I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I stated to her, “It’s okay. It actually is. I might be advantageous. And never solely am I going to be advantageous, in only a few months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And he or she laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not value doing if it was not value doing absolutely and properly. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to individuals typically about mindset, about perseverance. And I believe that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I might have made it so far as I did and had the result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any melancholy on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I believe that’s the primary factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you just reframed that and didn’t conceal from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it might open a dialog about that. I believe typically in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence appears like and that stress to really feel excellent and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought-about, , bodily excellent. And possibly by doing that, you gave ladies freedom to be who they honestly are in so some ways, and to not have to take care of this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your motive for competing as properly is that you just have been in a position to shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as properly, proper? You used your platform to carry numerous consciousness there as properly.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I needed to lift consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers analysis, that there’s a lot stuff to sit up for. Now, happening stage and the costume I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was an announcement. I didn’t select a costume that lined my chest. I might have. There are numerous robes I might have worn which might be completely stunning that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast dimension. However I went on stage as is. I used to be utterly uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my selection of costume. This was about, once more, one thing larger than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and brief hair with some areas that have been extra thinning than others. And this was essential to me as a result of I don’t need individuals to assume that most cancers just isn’t stunning. Most cancers is simply as stunning as anything. And I believe that that was an important message to ship to the world. And I believe it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how to start with overwhelming a most cancers analysis should really feel. And I hear from individuals, sadly, like I stated, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a analysis and, , overwhelmed and surprise the place to even begin searching for sources. So I’m curious if there have been issues that have been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece whenever you have been going by way of that and/or that helped issues to do to bodily help your self by way of that course of and to verify your physique was nourished and in a position to get better?

Dr. Bawa: You recognize, it’s attention-grabbing how life labored out for me. I used to be not likely…as a part of my medical follow, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based follow. After I began this, once I conceived this follow, I used to be not considering of most cancers. I used to be not considering of what a most cancers affected person wants for help but sarcastically, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t need to go exterior to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I might do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you’ll be able to’t eat properly, your dietary stage goes down at some extent whenever you want a better dietary stage to battle that illness, to battle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, basically. You want it. I extremely suggest it. It saved my life, but it surely’s a poison. Let’s not overlook that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be in a position to do hair restoration inside my follow as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many circumstances, it ought to be about hair loss prevention. No person thinks of it that manner, even my very own mates stated I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They informed me I used to be being, , very superficial. And I stated, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about preventing it when you’ll be able to battle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my follow and I by no means went bald regardless of very sturdy chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mixture of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers therapies or has gone by way of most cancers therapies, they understand how sturdy that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, , on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin therapies at my very own follow as a result of chemotherapy causes numerous pores and skin injury and hyperpigmentation. So regardless of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had numerous pores and skin injury. So, numerous that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my follow in any manner. You requested how I bought by way of it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a dwelling anyway. Now, how different individuals would get by way of it, I extremely suggest that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the sources close to them. Perhaps there’s a follow like me close to them. Perhaps there may be anyone who can assist them save their hair. Perhaps there may be somebody who can assist them with wellness and IVs and, , serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin adjustments and issues like that. As a result of, , it’s very miserable whenever you look within the mirror and also you don’t appear like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you virtually don’t acknowledge who you’re. And there’s one thing to be stated for making an attempt to take care of what you’ll be able to of your self by way of all of it.

I imply, there was some extent I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t wish to settle for that. So, I truly went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye coloration and do injury to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market may also do injury. Individuals don’t speak about it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it could actually trigger some adjustments within the coloration of your eye, as an illustration. No person talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was constructive in each manner for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my follow for that. So, a lot of that, , I used to be so fortunate, however I do suggest that they attain out to social employees, they attain out to help teams, and in my case, to mates. My household doesn’t reside right here. My household’s abroad. So my mates have been my tribe. They have been those who helped me by way of all of it. My buddy, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. You recognize, it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s stunning. And I believe that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that typically occurs relating to most cancers therapy or any type of medical therapy. It looks as if typically there’s a stress between the standard mannequin and the issues you want to do medically and the wellness facet. And it looks as if the perfect outcomes truly occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it isn’t an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which might be supportive of your physique and likewise supportive of hopefully, the method of therapy and serving to your physique get better extra shortly. However that’s a extremely unimaginable story that hopefully provides hope to anybody else who may, sadly, be in the identical state of affairs. And also you talked about your follow, I’d like to delve into a few totally different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with individuals in a wide range of alternative ways.

However one other space I hear so much from ladies about proper now and I’m wondering if COVID may be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks as if there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in ladies. I don’t know if that is present or if you happen to’ve possibly seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious if you happen to’re snug sharing, if you happen to had any of these struggles whenever you went by way of your chemo journey, but in addition the ways in which you assist tackle that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very captivated with. I do numerous intimate wellness for each women and men at my follow, and chemo and most cancers therapies, most cancers drugs, even after chemo could cause numerous adjustments in a lady’s hormonal steadiness. It threw me into menopause. So, , there’s so much that goes mistaken with most cancers and with ageing, typically. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that could be very ignored. Girls take higher care of their automobiles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I stated about hair loss relating to most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as an alternative of therapy. So, I encourage ladies to return get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So lots of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that unhealthy but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I wish to clarify to ladies around the globe that they should maintain themselves sooner.

In the event you tackle the issue earlier, youthful, you have got higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age in another way. It’s not simply your face that’s ageing, it’s your vagina as properly. So I’m very huge in my follow on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to carry higher blood circulate into your vaginal space, typically, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic flooring, all of it wants good blood circulate. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. You recognize, it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you grow old, blood vessels all over the place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood circulate. And that makes your pelvic flooring stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and all the things else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re definitely making an enormous stride in the direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to ladies of all ages. It additionally makes ladies extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a fantastic plus level with it. So, we do O-Pictures at our follow, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the fantastic, fantastic results we have now with it. And there’s little question, and that’s the great thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as properly at my follow with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something adverse about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps ladies throughout the board. I actually have an issue making an attempt to even let you know as a lady it is not going to work. And what? Typically the query is, “Who will it assist?” I believe the query with FemiWave is totally different, “Who will it not assist?” And I actually can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or kind. In order that’s one thing that I’m very glad to be doing. And we are actually a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for ladies and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, typically, by serving to individuals this fashion.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that ageing course of occurs there as properly, particularly simply as part of regular ageing. And I do know ladies report extra pelvic flooring points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of ladies. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that manner. Are there different elements, like as an illustration, you talked about that that type of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause typically impacts sexual well being for ladies. Are these items that you just do in your workplace in a position to assist type of tackle the, like, sexual satisfaction facet of that even after menopause for ladies?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do could be very complete. I really feel the totally different elements of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an example, I don’t simply do hormone substitute, I prefer to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of elements of our life as we age, as we battle totally different illnesses. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, typically. So I prefer to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I might optimize your hormones. I might optimize your diet and your metabolic state of affairs with IV remedy. I might do, , GAINSWave if you happen to’re a person, I do FemiWave if you happen to’re a lady. These are issues that assist everybody. I can’t think about providing you with a subset that it will not assist. In some form or kind, it’ll assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does anyone want, , as an illustration, a vaginal laser? We are able to all the time do this. Do the lads want some type of remedy? We are able to do this. So I believe that this must be seen as an even bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks as if the perfect outcomes in any realm occur whenever you tackle the physique as a complete and work and help its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you just discovered useful personally or that you just suggest to your sufferers that they’ll do at residence which might be supportive, whether or not or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks as if sleep and hydration are throughout the board all the time good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 friends on this podcast say sleep just isn’t essential and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there belongings you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the consequences of those therapies and likewise that have been useful to you whenever you have been going by way of your journey?

Dr. Bawa: In fact, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I might do to calm my thoughts was useful. I believe meditation is underrated. I don’t assume that you must sit for an hour and, , stare on the area to meditate. I believe meditation will be various things to totally different individuals. The thought is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a bit of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I believe you want to calm your thoughts and discover steadiness inside your self above all. After which I believe that hydration is a superb factor. As you talked about, hydration is a fundamental factor. If you’re not hydrated, then nothing works properly. Your pores and skin, your well being, typically, nothing works properly with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you you must eat natural, it’s not all the time possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do suggest making an attempt your greatest to have a extra inclusive weight loss plan, extra vegetables and fruit, not taking any group out of your weight loss plan.

As an example, chemo can result in numerous weight acquire. It’s a fallacy when individuals assume that every one most cancers sufferers shed extra pounds. Some acquire. I did. So I believe the thought is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll shed extra pounds,” or let me do that or that, I’ll shed extra pounds. I believe a balanced, nutritious diet with wise parts is essential. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s essential. Stability is essential in each facet. After which, in fact, I believe when you’ll find a physician close to you who can assist you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, , all of this was out there to me, however search out practitioners who consider in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their follow one thing that may aid you. Now, sexually, as an illustration, we’ve talked about FemiWave. If you’re someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we actually have a system. In the event that they contact us, we will all the time ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness system that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave expertise and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and produce good blood circulate into the vaginal space. It’s not as sturdy as what we do within the workplace, but it surely’s an exquisite adjunct for some other therapy or anything you’re doing in your life. In the event you can’t get to us personally, at the very least use this at residence. It is vitally useful.

Katie: And I’m curious if you happen to can communicate to possibly in simply generalities or possibly particular circumstances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes individuals typically want these sorts of therapies? Like, I believe most individuals possibly don’t understand that you just see these type of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like individuals perceive in that stage. However it will seem to be growing blood circulate can be a fairly dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do individuals sometimes see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly every week in the past is a couple of gentleman who is sort of 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him they usually’re having the perfect intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had therapies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, , they’re having intercourse at the very least as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And typically they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention anyone who’s virtually 70 years outdated. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my follow, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you’re. If in case you have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and reside your greatest life. Are you aware that 20% of males of their 20s undergo from erectile dysfunction? No person thinks that the 20s might carry dysfunction, but it surely’s completely true. It’s a recognized reality throughout the scientific group that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you stated, we don’t all the time have these research in ladies. There’s a glass ceiling for ladies and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re known as histrionic, hysterical, , hysteria, the idea of hysteria, , whenever you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to ladies. So I’m not right here to say that…, I’m not right here for a ladies’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that women, we don’t all the time have the research for us, we don’t all the time have the statistics for us, however now we have now choices and we must always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males typically could have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the identical age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had huge environmental adjustments which might be resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into essential to be extra proactive. When we have now extra adverse inputs that we have now to take care of, we have now to turn into extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you stated too about weight loss plan as properly, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I believe that’s one thing that uniquely impacts ladies extra as properly due to weight loss plan tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks as if many ladies wrestle with the mindset of having the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and having the ability to eat sufficient various meals to essentially truly help our physique. So I really like that you just introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve stated on right here earlier than is we have now to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so essential away from like meals is unhealthy. There’s guilt connected to meals. I have to weight loss plan and be thinner, to I really like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to the easiest way attainable? How do I help it? How do I help its pure processes of cleansing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unimaginable in what they’ll do, they simply want somewhat bit extra help in in the present day’s world as a result of they’re dealing with greater than they’ve up to now.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you stated so many fantastic issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we file this and truly speak about this by myself social media platforms as a result of what you stated is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Are you aware that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing individuals don’t speak about. It’s not a horny matter, but it surely’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you stated earlier about…you stated one thing easy, you stated, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. In the event you don’t get sufficient sleep, you have got decrease fertility. So when you have got decrease fertility, that impacts so many alternative elements of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So you then talked about, , different adjustments which might be occurring, different issues which might be occurring with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a dimension 0-2 once I was recognized with most cancers, I’m most likely a dimension 6 proper now. And I’m not being onerous on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me mistaken, I’m not consuming all the bread basket. But when I desire a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not ingesting a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine often. I believe we have to be kinder to ourselves as ladies and as males. I believe society could be very powerful on us. I believe there’s this complete idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be preventing that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went once I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, , coping with fluid retention. I believe the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you’re feeling stunning, that feeling wants to return from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to individuals going by way of struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that power wants to return from inside us. If you look in that mirror, you want to see somebody stunning, somebody sturdy, somebody who has persevered. Now we have all gone by way of struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal manner. I could have gone to medical faculty. I could put on a protracted white coat. My successes are totally different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I wish to do, encourage individuals to feeling and being their greatest. It wants to return from inside actually.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an essential mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily adjustments of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was so much for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this somewhat bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And once I might have a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it turned a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as an alternative of preventing it and loving it as an alternative of depriving it. And that made all the distinction. I believe you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to return and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to return from inside. And as ladies, that additionally provides us the flexibility to be that for different individuals as properly. However it could actually’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna be certain we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about ladies affected by one thing known as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as properly. Are you able to clarify why that’s occurring? And whether it is on the rise, why you assume it may be on the rise proper now, after which how ladies can tackle that?

Dr. Bawa: There are numerous the reason why ladies are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people understand that solely 18% of ladies can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra essential. We have to have higher vaginal well being, typically. Like I stated, we have to carry higher blood circulate into the world to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I believe individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two totally different points. Some individuals are having painful intercourse. Some individuals are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are numerous components to this. So I believe wellness as a complete is gonna contribute to it after which training that there’s a drawback. It’s okay to have that drawback. And it’s okay to discuss that drawback. If you tackle it together with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Pay attention, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I believe there are a number of essential components to this.

It’s essential to communicate to a therapist. There are therapists who specialise in sexual remedy and sexual wellness, they usually can assist you with this. In relation to the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will aid you with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are totally different instruments that you want to assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a bunch of issues you are able to do to assist your self. They usually all contribute. I believe all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any one in all them by themselves. So I believe there’s so much on the market. We simply have to get that assist.

Katie: And I believe having the dialog, I do know like several sexual well being matter is somewhat bit taboo and, like, I believe it raises eyebrows each time I speak about it on right here, however I believe the dialog can also be essential as a result of we all know that that’s tied into general well being. And to your level, I believe this can be a matter that’s not talked about sufficient, particularly for ladies. We definitely see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks as if when males have a wrestle with that, it turns into an important, imminent factor to repair. However ladies, I really feel like typically are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s mistaken with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t understand it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of ladies, simply penetrative intercourse typically isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel unhealthy speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I believe opening the dialog and letting them understand that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an essential first step for ladies. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this out there and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in hassle typically on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not displaying something that’s express. I imply, my posts aren’t pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will typically take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there may be disgrace even to that extent. Now let me let you know one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my youngsters on a trip and shut the workplace for every week and my assistant went on a trip together with her household. We consider in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we bought an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers might at the very least make and alter appointments whereas we have been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Are you aware that I bought a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service they usually stated to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this complete account up, however we can’t reply your calls as a result of some individuals name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate matter.” I stated, “Are you severe? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, , “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, , individuals calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? They usually stated, “Properly, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I stated, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these have been ladies telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in in the present day’s day and age, within the 12 months 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I provide vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s type of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a couple of medical drawback…like, to me that will be the identical as like just like a pregnant lady making an attempt to name her OB and being informed, “Oh, I’m sorry, we will’t speak about that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…, my head was spinning. I nonetheless keep in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I stated, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is unhealthy? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the girl, I stated, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you have got a vagina? Do you ever discover that you just need assistance from a physician on your vagina? I don’t count on you to reply that query,” I stated to her, “however how will you deny ladies the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I could offer you a small instance of the answering service, but it surely signifies an even bigger problem. It’s not okay to speak about it normally. Why? We’re all ladies and men, I imply, sexual well being is essential. We’re all in a state of affairs the place we have now the fitting to have good, intimate wellness and to not be informed that it’s unhealthy or soiled or upsetting to the typical one that’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to individuals? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a unclean phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I might not be alive in the present day. It’s not essentially a nasty factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? A great intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. In the event you don’t dribble urine whenever you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s an even bigger problem than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we remodel lives. And that’s why I believe that this must cease being such a taboo matter, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts once I speak about it, that YouTube must cease sending me, , little emails warning me in regards to the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being known as an issue youngster as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all dealing with? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so glad you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Properly, and also you’re so proper. I believe that the dialog is so essential. And for ladies simply to listen to that simply because these issues are widespread, it doesn’t imply they need to be regular, or definitely that they need to expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine once I train or soar on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t need to be a factor. I believe many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you have got children, but it surely doesn’t need to be. I believe beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And likewise a theme from this complete interview has been the mindset piece. And I believe that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly ladies relating to these subjects actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a word in my present notes that if you happen to have been going to offer a TED Speak, it will be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I really like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is an important to you. So I’d love to listen to somewhat bit extra about that as a result of I believe you’re proper, mindset permeates by way of all the things and is so, so essential. So, I might simply love to listen to somewhat little bit of your perspective on that, having been by way of adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: You recognize, all the things about who I’m in the present day has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t speak about this often, and I’m going to strive to not choke up about it as I speak about it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I’m going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s an enormous deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all instructional, monetary obstacles. I used to be a sufferer of numerous emotional, home abuse and finally bodily abuse as properly. And also you wouldn’t assume that a physician in my state of affairs would take care of that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m no longer in that state of affairs anymore, it lasted a few years. I received’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a couple of mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about dropping hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me turn into an even bigger individual, a greater individual. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something adverse that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or kind that may be, to indicate my sons, who’re my world, that life just isn’t in regards to the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to rework it. And that’s why I believe that if I used to be to ever give a TED Speak, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it will be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a couple of pageant. It was a a lot larger factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the thought of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers just isn’t speculated to be stunning, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you acquire weight, you shed extra pounds, however both manner, you’re not at your greatest. So we assume that meaning we’re not stunning. No, you’re simply as stunning if no more so as a result of now you have got overcome another factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me reside a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s virtually oxymoronic when you concentrate on adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional development.

Katie: I absolutely agree having been by way of trauma in my previous as properly, I can now…I believe it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different individuals by way of that have and thru that story. Similar factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a motive. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I believe you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so essential and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we definitely all the time have that selection as properly. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was known as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a guide or quite a lot of books which have had a profound affect in your life or your journey, and in that case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I believe a guide that all the time comes up in my thoughts once I’m requested a query about books or a guide that has modified me is a guide known as “Outliers.” Outlier is a guide written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are often outliers on the tip of that spectrum a method or one other, and what number of instances you must do one thing to succeed, to turn into good at it. And I believe that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the typical, above the norm that I believe is a guide that actually helps me proceed my journey in the direction of self-improvement, in the direction of reaching excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as stated to me, once I was about 5 years outdated, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your identify. If you wish to be a physician, be the easiest you will be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. You recognize, if you wish to be anyone who does muffins for a dwelling, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in all the things. In order that’s, , one thing that I believe “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s stunning. I really like that. And I’ll, in fact, put hyperlinks to your follow and to some put up regarding a few of the subjects we’ve talked about in the present day for any of you guys listening, particularly if you’re within the Florida space and wish to discover Dr. Bawa and be taught. These hyperlinks might be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners in the present day, whether or not or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the subjects we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I believe if I might truly give two items of recommendation if you happen to’ll let me, I believe I’d prefer to say two issues. Firstly, ladies, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is essential. If there’s one thing mistaken, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will hearken to you. Secondly, I might say, I consider in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see whenever you look within the mirror. In the event you’re not glad together with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There may be assist on the market. In the event you’re not having the perfect intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have the perfect intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, , doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you just’re not proud of, don’t be complacent. So lots of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that unhealthy but.” That idea is senseless to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is an entire catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, as an illustration, the place it’s bought no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. In the event you’re having points together with your hormones and also you’re having sizzling flashes, communicate to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Do this. So, I believe, reside your greatest life, no matter meaning to you. In no matter form or kind you’ll be able to elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I really like that. And I believe that sums up numerous what we talked about in the present day and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful on your time in the present day. I’m very grateful that you’ve got recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you just’re serving to many different individuals do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was fantastic.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most respected property, your time and vitality, and a focus with us in the present day. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the following episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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