Jimmy Rex on Placing a Cease to Intercourse Trafficking & What to Watch For


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Katie: Good day, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this episode tackles a troublesome subject, however I feel a really, essential one in right this moment’s world. And that’s the subject of intercourse trafficking. I’m right here with Jimmy Rex, who’s an unimaginable one that chooses to reside his life in a approach the place not one second goes to waste. And for him, this implies actively being on the bottom, serving to rescue individuals from intercourse trafficking, amongst many, many, many different issues.

 

He’s at the moment, as an example, an lively actual property agent with some of the sought out teaching packages within the nation about actual property. And he’s additionally a highly regarded speaker. He has his personal podcast known as “The Jimmy Rex Present” that exhibits extraordinary individuals, residing extraordinary lives. And he additionally spends time attempting to make a distinction on the earth, together with as an undercover operative for varied organizations that rescue individuals from intercourse trafficking, together with quite a few very harmful journeys to different nations to save lots of younger youngsters and youngsters.

 

And we discuss this right this moment, how he’s labored on 12 totally different operations to rescue individuals, how this can be a widespread drawback in lots of U.S. cities and worldwide, and the way typically, after they land in a brand new place, they can discover individuals being trafficked inside simply a few hours. Why intercourse trafficking doesn’t all the time seem like you suppose it will, and what to look at for. Why these organizations spend six occasions as a lot on aftercare than rescues, and the way they assist individuals after they’re rescued. And issues like find out how to educate your children to concentrate on the danger, what to look out for in your personal children and of their buddies, vital boundaries to assist your children put in place so they are going to be much less in danger, tech pointers to concentrate on. How, particularly youngsters, are focused by expertise and social media. Some journey ideas associated to staying protected, particularly in different nations. Necessary conversations to have along with your children round this subject, and steps we are able to all take to assist this drawback worldwide, in addition to some actually fascinating aspect tangents about Jimmy and what he does on the earth. So like I mentioned, robust subject, however I feel an vital one. And I feel that you’ll study lots. I do know I did and didn’t notice fairly how widespread and horrific this drawback is. So on that notice, let’s be part of Jimmy.

 

Katie: Jimmy, welcome. Thanks for being right here.

 

Jimmy: Hey, I respect you having me on, thanks.

 

Katie: Effectively, I’m excited to talk right this moment a few subject that I feel lots of people perhaps choose not to consider, however one which I feel is absolutely, actually vital. And that’s the subject of childhood intercourse trafficking. And I do know that’s an intense one. And we’re gonna go quite a lot of totally different instructions with this. However in the beginning, I might love to listen to how you bought into this work within the first place.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, so our mutual good friend, Paul Hutchinson. I used to be at a networking assembly about six years in the past and I heard him talking. He had simply obtained again from doing his first undercover operation that he had gone on. And as I used to be listening to him inform the story, it simply touched me in a approach that I knew I needed to be part of this. I knew this was going to be one thing I used to be gonna be concerned with for the remainder of my life. And so, I simply made it a mission of mine to one way or the other have the ability to create sufficient worth to be part of this group that was going and doing this. And, , six, eight months later, I discovered myself on my first op. And since then, I’ve been in a position to be on 12 totally different operations. However I actually simply knew after I heard it, I needed to do one thing about it. And so simply made certain that I may do every part I may to supply worth.

 

Katie: And I do know this can be a factor that individuals right here could also be talked about within the media or see occasional mainstream information references to. However I really feel prefer it, hopefully, isn’t near house for lots of people so typically it’s a simple factor to sort of ignore, however are you able to discuss how huge of an issue that is worldwide and why this was so vital to you?

 

Jimmy: Yeah, I imply, I don’t know actual numbers or something like that, however I can inform you this, anytime we went to a brand new metropolis, if we went in search of it, more often than not inside 45 minutes to an hour, we may discover individuals prepared to promote us children for intercourse after we have been undercover. And in order that tells you, , in lots of of those cities, I’ve been to earlier than on trip and by no means crossed my thoughts, by no means thought twice about it. However the second we went in search of it, it was that straightforward to seek out. And so, I do know that in most locations across the nation, it’s not out within the open, it’s not one thing you’ll ever see or take into consideration, nevertheless it’s happening on a regular basis.

 

Katie: So really, this can be a factor that might very a lot be occurring and sure is in lots of our personal communities?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, it was actually, I imply, inside a few hours, for certain, we may discover individuals prepared to promote as youngsters that have been already doing it.

 

Katie: Wow. And is that…? I do know within the analysis I’ve executed, quite a lot of that is occurring technologically now and the elevated entry to expertise is making this occur. And there are methods that that’s occurring sort of underground, even on-line, is that what you guys are seeing as nicely?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. We didn’t actually do a lot with the web stuff, however I imply, when you concentrate on, , with a view to, A, visitors a child, or to be the particular person on the opposite finish of that, going to search for youngsters to have intercourse with, you need to have entry to youngsters. And so prior to now, quite a lot of occasions, all that, , you’ll hear about was some member of the family or perhaps a trainer or one thing like that, any person that was near these children. Effectively now, due to the web, we all know there’s simply much more accessibility for these individuals seeking to do these issues. And to allow them to each visitors and discover youngsters simpler by the web. And so, clearly, it’s change into a really prevalent place the place that occurs.

 

Katie: So whenever you say you’ve gone on 12 totally different operations, what does that seem like? Are you guys in a position to really rescue among the children from these conditions?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So I’ve been on 12 ops that have been concerned with rescuing youngsters. So we go all the way down to totally different areas the place we all know one thing’s happening, or we’ve been tipped off that there is perhaps an issue. And we might go down undercover. And our job is to enter the worst locations in these cities and discover the worst individuals and attempt to discover these which might be trafficking youngsters. And so we’re utilizing, , all of our skills to principally attempt to discover the children and the individuals prepared to promote us the children.

 

And so forth all 12 of these ops, a couple of of them, , didn’t find yourself getting the children. One thing occurred, any person obtained tipped off, or no matter it might need been, however the majority of them went very profitable. And general, I feel I’ve been in a position to be part of now rescuing over 150 youngsters and having over 45, 50 guys and ladies arrested. And so, yeah, we might actually simply go undercover, we might go into these cities. We’d fly in and begin doing our factor that we do with a view to discover them. And like I mentioned, generally it will take us a couple of days to sort of get all of it arrange, generally it’d be very fast, however that’s sort of what it appeared like.

 

Katie: And I’ll admit, it’s considerably unfathomable to me that that is occurring and particularly on such a big scale. Like, I really can’t even comprehend after I learn these stats. Are these like dad and mom and caregivers which might be collaborating on this, are these youngsters being kidnapped, or what are you guys often discovering?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So we see just a little little bit of every part. So it doesn’t often seem like you’ll suppose. So we’ve seen youngsters behind cages and bars. That’s, in Haiti, that was, , the fact of the scenario one time. That’s not often what you see although. So sometimes, what’s happening is quite a lot of these youngsters are trafficked both by any person they know, by a member of the family, by a good friend, by a trainer. I’ll provide you with one instance. We have been in a metropolis in Latin America, and it was a seventh or eighth-grade faculty trainer.

 

She used her place to lure these ladies that she was educating. For instance, so she would inform them, “Hey, , I’ve obtained an additional $20 in case you’ll go to this occasion. We’re gonna have a celebration. It must be enjoyable.” Lure them into the occasion. Subsequent factor they know, they’re being raped. And the trainer tells them, “In the event you inform anyone, inform your dad and mom, then I’m gonna inform them that you just went and had intercourse with these males. After which we’ll inform everyone what you’ve executed.” After which principally it’s a disgrace factor.

 

After which they, … And we all know this as a result of among the occasions after we have been capable of finding these traffickers, we might have the ability to faucet their telephones. And the Mexican police or the Latin police, whoever we have been working with, would eavesdrop on the conversations. And these ladies could be begging to not should go, however they might go nonetheless. And so quite a lot of them have been even residing at house and being trafficked out of their very own home. A variety of them, you bought a neighbor or a member of the family or any person like that’s doing it.

 

A variety of occasions, the ladies or the women, , they weren’t even… generally they didn’t even know the depth of the how unhealthy it was, what was occurring to them. They knew that, , they have been being trafficked out, however they didn’t totally perceive. They have been too younger to essentially comprehend what was happening. So you actually see just a little little bit of every part, however often, it’s any person in these sorts of conditions. A variety of occasions, runaways or ladies that, , had a hassle in the home, they might go reside with a member of the family or a good friend, and subsequent factor , they’re residing with the traffickers or no matter that may seem like. And so, we noticed all of that.

 

One of many first issues that we do, anytime we’re gonna go right into a metropolis, a brand new metropolis, and go undercover, we’ve to ensure first that they’ve all of the aftercare arrange in order that if we do a rescue and we discover these younger ladies, that they’ve aftercare set as much as assist them or to maintain them. And so we wouldn’t even ever go do an op with out that setup. And a part of the rationale for that’s if we rescue the women and there’s no aftercare, there’s no approach to assist them, it’s really worse for them quite a lot of occasions. And so, , we work along with these organizations.

 

And so, one of many first questions that they all the time determine, or one of many first issues they determine is, “Okay. Was this particular person residing at house? Have been they lacking? In the event that they have been lacking, have been they reported lacking?” As a result of that’s often an indication whether or not the dad and mom have been concerned or not. And so, , we actually did quite a lot of work on the again finish to make it possible for was all taken care of. That’s a extremely huge a part of it’s simply to make it possible for their scenario is protected at house. And if not, they wouldn’t return to that scenario.

 

Katie: That was gonna be my follow-up query is what does aftercare seem like? As a result of I can solely think about that there’s most likely lots that wants to enter this from the psychological well being aspect, from the bodily well being aspect to the logistical aspect of constructing certain they’ve a protected place to be after. What all goes into that?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. Similar to you simply mentioned, all of that, , quite a lot of therapists, quite a lot of caretakers, lots of people. After which additionally determining what the women needed with their lives. Attempting to attach them to the correct individuals that might assist them in the event that they needed to go to highschool, in the event that they needed to have a sure profession. Somebody needed to, , bake or get into hair slicing or no matter that is perhaps. Give them one thing the place they’d an opportunity to study and develop and never have to return to a foul scenario.

 

However that’s… Yeah, aftercare concerned all of the above. And by the point, , I labored lots with a bunch known as… nicely, I labored with quite a lot of totally different teams, however Youngster Liberation Basis and Operation Underground Railroad. I do know, , for these organizations, they spend much more cash. I heard as soon as, I can’t confirm this, however I heard one time they spend six occasions more cash per little one on aftercare that they do on the precise rescues themselves.

 

Katie: Wow. Effectively, that appears tremendous, tremendous vital. What sort of age vary do you sometimes see when these individuals are rescued? I’m just a little scared to ask, however I might assume it’s principally like youngsters and younger adults, or do you see sort of throughout the board?

 

Jimmy: Normally 12 to 14, 15 is sort of what most of them are. You realize, I feel the youngest I noticed was 12. I feel the oldest that we… We rescued some that weren’t underage, however , nonetheless being exploited or no matter. However the majority have been that 12 to 17, 12 to 16 vary.

 

Katie: And is there a course of for coping with the people who find themselves doing the trafficking? Like, are there in these totally different nations and particularly within the U.S., like, is there really a technique of them being dropped at justice or what does that seem like?

 

Jimmy: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we by no means labored within the U.S. The U.S. has, , quite a lot of enforcement businesses. I do know there’s some organizations that work along with these legislation enforcement businesses. However you gotta keep in mind, quite a lot of these nations we go to, they don’t have the cash or the means to do it. And they also have reached out to us to assist them. They desperately need our assist. You realize, for instance, after I did a few ops in Mexico, they have been so grateful to us that they ended up awarding me and my group of buddies that have been along with me, , diplomat standing and a few actually cool awards and issues like that as a result of they’re so grateful. As a result of, , one of many destructive stuff you hear about that is like, “Oh, the Individuals simply wanna go G.I. Joe or no matter.” And it’s actually not true in any respect. They have been so grateful to have us there to have the ability to work with them.

 

And what the Individuals are in a position to do is a lot more practical as a result of we seem like the individuals which might be happening there for the trafficking within the first place. And so we’re in a position to simply get much more data. I keep in mind one op we did, , it took us about 24 hours. The pinnacle of the federal police in that nation mentioned, “You guys have gotten us extra data in 24 hours than we gotten in 14 months.” We had all their names, their social medias, their cellphone numbers, , every part we wanted for these guys. And so for us, the chance to go down there and do this, it’s simply far more efficient, far more environment friendly for them. However yeah, it’s a course of of constructing certain you’re working along with every authority on each single op. You’re working very intently hand in hand.

 

Katie: And I really feel like from right here, there’s sort of a two-prong method I wanna go into. The primary being, for all of the dad and mom listening, most individuals listening are dad and mom, what can we pay attention to, indicators to search for, hopefully not in our personal youngsters for anybody listening, however in perhaps different youngsters that we’re interacting with, our youngsters’ buddies, simply generally, that may be sort of warning indicators for issues like abuse and kidnapping and intercourse trafficking?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I feel it’s actually vital to show your children in the event that they’re uncomfortable with one thing, to let . I do know after I was a child, I had like a bizarre uncle and nothing ever occurred, however I simply felt uncomfortable with him. He all the time needed to kiss me on the lips like when he was saying hello and bye, and I used to be in a position to get out of it. However, , I keep in mind my dad and mom being like, “Be good or no matter.” And it’s like, no, don’t. Like, in case you really feel uncomfortable with one thing, that’s an indication that perhaps it’s best to avoid that particular person. Or when you’ve got, like, a neighbor that’s just a little bit creepy, there’s most likely one thing to that. So don’t…

 

I keep in mind simply as a child, , dad and mom, quite a lot of occasions, they don’t need their children to return off impolite, however I feel it’s vital to let your children know in case you don’t wanna discuss to any person otherwise you don’t wanna be good to any person that’s an grownup, that’s good. Like, let me know and also you don’t should. You don’t should be pleasant to everyone, even when it’s your grandparent or your uncle or whoever it is perhaps. I feel that’s one vital factor for fogeys. After which simply search for issues. Like, it’s not okay for fogeys to be buddies with children. It’s not okay for fogeys to be overly pleasant with children. Or, sorry, strangers, . To be… So if any person’s attempting to love… Normally, in the event that they’re gonna do one thing, nonetheless to at the present time, I feel more often than not, the traffickers know the children. And so take note of that.

 

If the trainer is contacting the scholar outdoors of church or faculty, most likely not okay. If there’s issues that they need them to maintain from you as a mum or dad, not okay. And so I feel it’s vital to only have open communication along with your children and simply allow them to know, “Hey, I’m by no means gonna get mad at you. But when there’s ever an grownup wanting to satisfy up or discuss or no matter, I simply wanna know what’s happening and I’ll be certain, , to be part of it. Simply have a really open dialogue along with your children. As a result of often it seems like an grownup that’s simply attempting to be good they usually’ll make you appear to be you’re the loopy one.

 

However , I feel children, particularly if children are simply uncomfortable round any person, take note of their power. In case you have a neighbor that the child’s all the time hiding from or doesn’t wanna discuss to or sort of clamps up round, that is perhaps an indication that, , they don’t wanna be round that neighbor or one thing is perhaps happening there. And so I feel that’s crucial factor so far as with individuals . So far as individuals you don’t know, I feel, once more, simply educating your children to have the ability to say, , to have the ability to say no, to yell in the event that they’re in hassle, to watch out the place they’re going, to only concentrate, , all the primary issues that you’d already inform your child as a mum or dad.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I feel that boundary one, particularly round bodily contact is absolutely, actually vital. To simply echo what you mentioned of even at a younger age, , not forcing our youngsters to hug a relative in the event that they don’t wish to. And educate them from the second that they perceive that your physique is yours to make choices about, interval. And I assist your choices about that. In the event you don’t wanna…you’ll not be compelled to hug or kiss any relative, together with me. Like, that is your physique, your autonomy, and I’m your greatest supporter in that.

 

And that’s additionally actually nice recommendation about simply watching grownup relationships and ensuring we’re part of them with different adults outdoors the household. As a result of definitely, like, after all, there might be mentorship conditions or lecturers who’re nice with the children, however there’s no cause dad and mom can’t be concerned in these relationships as nicely.

 

What in regards to the social media aspect? As a result of that is an space that after I was at these ages, didn’t exist. So this was one thing I didn’t should navigate as a teen. And now, as dad and mom, we’re navigating with our youngsters fairly often from a youthful age. And I’ve learn at the very least that fairly a little bit of the focusing on that occurs goes on by social media or by on-line channels.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So, that is a type of issues that folks may not be very conscious of in any respect, however it is vitally straightforward to contact children or teenage children by social media apps for these individuals. So I’ll provide you with an instance. We have been on trip undercover. Effectively, I ought to say, our group was undercover. There was, with us, one of many guys that got here down undercover, his spouse and cousin got here to be on trip within the metropolis. So earlier than the ops began, they have been hanging out. Effectively, one of many cousin was on her social media on Fb, I consider, or Instagram.

 

And she or he had simply posted that she was on this explicit seaside metropolis hanging out and obtained contacted by this man on there that mentioned, “Oh. Hey, we’ve this occasion happening. It’s on the membership, this, this. You guys ought to come.” Effectively, we noticed it later and it was one of many traffickers that we have been working with undercover in that metropolis had contacted her to return to this occasion. I imply, she was, I feel 19 or 20, so she wasn’t underage, however nonetheless, he didn’t know that. And who is aware of if that may’ve changed into a trafficking scenario. So quite a lot of occasions, individuals will put up their footage they usually’ll put the landmark that they’re by.

 

Effectively, these traffickers can search by a landmark, they will search by metropolis. They will see, , the place these individuals are after which they contact them in real-time and say, “Oh. Hey, we obtained this occasion,” or, “Hey, we obtained this occasion happening.” And so I simply suppose it’s vital that they change into conscious. As a result of quite a lot of occasions, particularly teenage children and teenage ladies, they is perhaps happening a trip they usually harmlessly are posting about the place they’re at in real-time and exhibiting that and it simply sort of opens that door. Particularly in case you’re in another country, what I like to recommend to individuals to do is put up every part three or 4 days later. So wait until you allow the place you’re at.

 

In the event you wanna do a video in your Instagram story, as an alternative of posting that story in real-time, , wait three days, make the video, after which put up every part a couple of days later. I do know that’s not as enjoyable as doing it in real-time, however particularly overseas, I simply suppose that’s actually vital to not let individuals know the place you’re at. A variety of occasions, these are small cities, they’re seaside cities, , you’re in some Southeast Asia place or one thing or, , Latin nation, or South America, or wherever it is perhaps. As a result of it’s a very actual factor. And in addition, it simply opens the door even for individuals…

 

You realize, and fogeys as nicely, by the best way. In the event you’re posting and also you’re approach in another country otherwise you’re very far-off from house and you’ve got teenage children at house, nicely, most likely not a good suggestion to put up in real-time both as a result of now if anyone’s been watching you and your children, they know you guys are away, they may perhaps attempt to make their transfer in your child at the moment whilst you’re out. And so I feel it’s actually vital to only pay attention to that. I do know we wanna present the world every part we’re doing, however when you’ve got, , teenage children, particularly your youthful children, I simply suppose it’s good time to place, , put some house in between the place you’re in order that no one can…

 

I’ve an in depth household that I’m superb buddies with known as the Bucket Checklist Household. And also you might need heard of them earlier than. I’ve gone on a number of journeys with them, with Garrett and Jess and their household. They usually all the time wait three or 4 or 5 days to put up from the place they really are so individuals don’t know the place they’re at. They will’t come and, , who is aware of what they may attempt to do or no matter. And so, I realized that from Garrett firsthand. However , it’s a reasonably good concept to only put up a couple of days later.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s such a easy tip, however such an vital one. And it’s one I’ve inadvertently executed simply due to having sort of a web based platform. I might find yourself assembly up with individuals if I posted the place I really was, which was really nice, as a result of I really like assembly up with my readers, nevertheless it made me notice like, wow, it’s really easy for individuals to determine and put the items collectively and there’s this probability of individuals being in the identical place. However after we consider it by this lens, particularly for youths, that could be a easy tip. It makes a complete lot of sense. I do know children are so used to posting every part and sharing their complete life on social media, however that’s such an vital tip.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, I do the identical factor. After I go, , I’m going to quite a lot of sporting occasions, and I put up that in real-time. I don’t have little children at house both and stuff like that so it’s not as huge of a deal. However yeah, it’s simply a type of little issues. Additionally, simply generally, in social media, take note of who your children are speaking with. In the event that they’re youngsters, in the event that they’re on the apps, I feel it’s simply vital to have an excellent relationship with them and never get mad at them in case you ever see them speaking to adults as a result of they’re gonna disguise it from you in that case. And so I feel in case you can actually come from a spot of understanding and curiosity and love with them, and simply allow them to know like, “Hey, I simply wanna just remember to are protected.”

 

I simply inform them, “I simply wanna ensure you’re protected. You by no means know. I’ll by no means get mad at you, but when adults ever attain out to you, I’d like to know.” I used to be, , speaking to any person fairly lately and he or she had talked about, she’s older now, however she had talked about when she was 16 and 17, she had 37 to 39-year-old guys, , that she was happening dates with as a 16-year-old, 15-year-old. And also you’re like, “Geez, the place have been the dad and mom on this?” You realize? But it surely’s actually vital to know who your children are speaking to. And so I simply suppose the extra you possibly can create that comfortability with them the place they’re gonna be trustworthy and open with you and also you don’t get mad at them for it, I feel you’re gonna have the ability to present an area the place they’ll really share it with you.

 

Katie: Yeah. And the significance of simply having these open conversations. And like I mentioned, social media didn’t exist after I was a teen, however I had guys in particular person who’re a lot, a lot, a lot older attempt to make contact and discuss to me. And like that felt bizarre on the time. And, like, I didn’t have an excellent context essentially for, like, what do I do about this? And so I feel having these conversations along with your children actually early and ensuring, such as you mentioned, that they hear again and again, like, “I’ll by no means be mad at you. I’ll all the time be your advocate. And these are vital. Even in case you simply have a suspicion or an inkling or one thing simply feels bizarre, we are able to discuss it, something, and you’ll not ever get in hassle for that.” Simply to create kinda that security web.

 

And I feel the opposite a part of this, so like I feel the dad and mom being conscious with our personal children is tremendous, tremendous vital. However such as you’ve defined, this can be a worldwide drawback, sadly. It appears to be an growing drawback nonetheless in right this moment’s society. And I do know, like, as an example, me as a mother of six children, I can’t go do sting operations very simply in different nations, however what are some ways in which we are able to get entangled and assist assist the schooling, assist the combat in opposition to this for different individuals’s children and elsewhere?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. You realize, I feel some of the vital issues you are able to do is to begin with your personal self, your loved ones, the individuals that you just affect. Paul all the time has this saying. He says, “Jimmy, I’m gonna educate you a lesson in regards to the circle of affect.” He says, “If it’s inside the circle that you could affect it, then you’ve gotten the correct to fret about it. If it’s not inside that circle, you’ve gotten two selections. You both don’t fear about it otherwise you make a much bigger circle so that you could affect extra and you may finally do one thing about it.”

 

So so far as, like, yeah, you’re not gonna have the ability to go undercover and do these sort of issues. What you are able to do is to assist assist the organizations like Youngster Liberation Basis that, , goes and does this type of stuff. You’ll be able to assist them by sharing their tales, by sharing their social medias, by sharing their posts, liking it, commenting it, simply letting the phrase get on the market. Additionally what you’re doing proper now, proper? Doing this podcast. And one of many issues that, , I’m cautious to share after I inform individuals find out how to share that is you don’t wanna share it in a approach that’s unfaithful or loopy.

 

You’ll discover I by no means give stats or numbers I don’t know. I don’t wanna throw issues on the market. As a result of what I feel what occurred with this motion just a little bit over the past yr or two is the individuals which might be actually evil, I feel that they tried to lump on this problem with QAnon and a few of these different loopy theories which might be on the market. And so what it did is it sort of minimized all of it, proper? It was like, “Oh, it’s only a bunch of loopy individuals.” But it surely’s like, “No. I’ve seen firsthand. I do know the issue that’s on the market. I don’t know the extent to precisely how large it’s, nevertheless it’s huge and it’s an issue.”

 

However as a result of so many individuals began sounding loopy with the best way they shared it and sharing numbers and stats that perhaps weren’t true, they have been in a position to lump it in and simply be like, “Yeah, that’s all simply a part of the loopy proper wing conspiracy.” And so I’m very cautious to not share issues that aren’t true. I wanna make it possible for individuals know this can be a actual factor. That is occurring. It doesn’t imply that Tom Hanks is consuming youngsters. It implies that, , that there’s a pedophile. And we all know Ghislaine Maxwell trial happening proper now. This can be a actual factor. It’s been occurring.

 

However cautious the way you share it. I share it in a approach the place it’s like, “Look, that is most likely occurring proper in your yard.” It doesn’t matter if the elites of the world are doing it within the sense that that’s not essentially what it’s good to be sharing. What it’s good to be sharing is, like, look, straight up on the bottom, how can I be affecting my neighborhood, my metropolis, and sort of fear in regards to the issues you possibly can really affect? That’s the most effective factor I’m attempting to get out of that is you’re not gonna have the ability to do something if the world leaders are all doing this.

 

Like, there’s not a lot you are able to do or say about that. What you could possibly do is, in your group, assist educate individuals, assist individuals see the issue that’s on the market. After which simply assist them be, , once more, be good neighbors. The strongest neighborhoods the place this isn’t occurring is the place there’s sturdy neighborhoods, they’re serving to one another, they care about one another. They’re prepared to speak to one another. And so, I feel that to me is one of the best ways to do it. After which, clearly, once more, simply spreading the attention and issues like that.

 

Katie: And I’ll be certain, I do know that there are additionally many on-line sources, together with the organizations you talked about. I’ll be certain these are linked to the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. so that you guys can learn and discover a few of these precise info to share and know what to look at for and in your personal group. I additionally totally agree with you that having sturdy communities in our native space is part of the answer. And in addition, I’ve talked about it in so many podcast episodes, it’s vital for well being, it’s vital for psychological well being, it’s vital for longevity.

 

Like, there’s a cause blue zones have sturdy communities and that’s as a result of they’re very important to us as human animals. However that is additionally simply one other instance of why that’s so vital. And particularly for our youngsters. I do know that is an space that’s been robust for lots of people the final couple of years because the group’s been tougher with quite a lot of the restrictions which have gone on, however one which’s very, essential to nurture.

 

And so I’ll be certain all these hyperlinks are included within the present notes. I’d like to additionally discuss just a little bit extra about you personally so individuals can perceive the work that you just’re doing and likewise why that is, , so vital to you and the way you’re employed to enhance the world in a complete lot of various areas. And I’ve some notes in my present notes, one being, in case you have been gonna give a TED Discuss, it will be about sort of the concept of your e-book, which is “You Finish Up The place You’re Heading.” So I might love to listen to you discuss that just a little bit as a result of I feel that is additionally actually related to folks.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, yeah. So a number of years in the past, once more, I sort of had this second the place I used to be attempting to determine what my life was gonna be about, what the aim of my life was going to be. And I felt very strongly finally about my function, and it’s to assist individuals reside a rare life, to unfold love and goodness by having a playful spirit, and exhibiting how to try this. And so one of many issues that… I’ll inform you a fast story too. The hat that I’m carrying, it’s a emblem for my firm. It’s known as “We Are The They.”

 

And the way that took place is I got here again from one in all these ops. It was really some of the harmful ones we’d ever been on. And, , I used to be telling my girlfriend on the time, she picked me up on the airport, and we have been speaking all in regards to the op and the way scary it was and the way cool it was as a result of we obtained the rescue and we took these horrible guys down. And I’m telling her all about it and he or she pulls over and he or she goes, “Hey, I gotta be trustworthy. I don’t need you to go do that anymore.” And I used to be like, “What do you imply? I simply rescued these children. Like, that is my life’s function right here. You realize, it’s gonna be an enormous a part of it.”

 

And she or he says, “Effectively, I do know, nevertheless it’s simply such a foul surroundings.”It’s simply actually scary. It’s harmful.” And she or he mentioned, “Why can’t they simply go do it?” And with out pondering, I mentioned, “Effectively, there isn’t a they, we’re the they.” And as quickly as I mentioned it, I used to be like ‘Oh, shit, that’s…” And, , and I knew… And in order that turned the mannequin for my life is “We’re the they.” And in order that, , once more, along with the e-book, I simply attempt to assist individuals. I coach males find out how to change into the most effective model of themselves. It’s a bunch known as “We Are The They.”

 

And principally, we simply, by being males of integrity, by being trustworthy about what, , I observed through the years, the individuals that may attain out to me essentially the most, they needed group they usually needed a protected place the place they may open up and have individuals love them by development and attempting to change into the most effective model of themselves. And in order that’s the place I began that. The e-book primarily follows what is named the hero’s journey, which is the trail that all of us go on.

 

And I feel it’s vital in life to keep in mind that attending to the place we’re attempting to get, it’s not a easy path. It’s not a simple path. However that journey, that hero’s journey that we go on. And principally, in case you’ve by no means thought of what you need your life to seem like, you’re simply gonna find yourself the place you’re heading. You’re simply gonna go wherever the wind sort of takes you. No matter particular person desires you to be part of their story, they’ll add you in as a bit. And often, you’ll spend your life constructing their dream or their factor.

 

And so if what you need, in case you get crystal clear on the place you’re attempting to go and what you’re attempting to do… You realize, you requested me on the very starting of this, how did you get into this? And finally, it’s as straightforward as I simply determined I used to be going to do that. I made that call. I had a why large after which I found out find out how to make that occur. And in order that’s that approach with every part in life. I simply sort of, , by the e-book and thru my teaching program, encourage individuals to determine precisely what they need in life after which go about determining why that’s what they need after which determining find out how to go about doing it.

 

Katie: Yeah. I feel that’s so vital. I haven’t had an opportunity to learn it but, however I’m positively going to take a look at your e-book. I even have a notice in my present notes that you’ve got an honorary doctorate diploma from 13 universities in Mexico. And I really feel like I would like to listen to extra about this.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, that was a part of… So we did quite a lot of these ops early on. We have been in Mexico. We have been in a position to rescue quite a lot of children down there they usually have been so grateful to us for doing this. Like I mentioned, they didn’t have the power, the means to do it. And so, a number of years in the past, they flew up, most likely 30, 35 officers from Mexico flew up, and we did a particular ceremony on the Capitol constructing right here in Utah with the Legal professional Normal of Utah. They gave us honorary doctorate levels.

 

So I’ve this group of buddies from highschool. There’s eight of us which might be all finest buddies. And two of them turned medical doctors. One’s an orthopedist surgeon and one’s a plastic surgeon. And I made the joke to them. I mentioned, “Gosh, guys, who would’ve ever thought that three of us would change into medical doctors, ?” They usually didn’t suppose that was very humorous since they put 15 years of faculty into it. But it surely was simply sort of an honor that we obtained to have, simply one thing sort of cool and one thing sort of attention-grabbing I put in my bio.

 

Katie: I even have a notice that you just’ve been to 84 nations. And I might love to listen to only a few of the highest ones that you’d suggest essentially the most.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So in reality, what occurred, I’ll inform the story of why I began doing that. So in 2014, I had a buddy, his identify was Eric Hill. And he had a objective, he was gonna go to each single nation within the shortest period of time ever. And he’d gotten to I feel over 50 of them in lower than 6 or 7 months. And he was doing this world odyssey. And he ended up passing away. He was paragliding and had an accident and died. And I keep in mind there was this, sort of, this hashtag that went round, #livelikeEric.

 

And what that meant to me was this man was really residing his life. He was doing all these wonderful issues and going and simply residing his life. And I remembered I hadn’t been in another country in years. I’d been simply working my butt off on a regular basis. And I mentioned to myself, I mentioned, , “If I died tomorrow, like, the tragedy that that may be.” And so I simply made it a objective. I simply mentioned, “I’m simply gonna go see the world.” And so I began touring, went on a number of journeys with buddies, with teams of buddies, with, , any person I used to be relationship, after which went on a number of on my own too.

 

And what I found is simply this world, when you determine, like, how lovely the world is, whenever you really can respect the world for every part it’s, you’ve gotten a a lot stronger want to put it aside, a a lot stronger want to do good on the earth, I feel. And so for me, I actually encourage everyone, drop quite a lot of prejudices and also you’re in a position to actually see individuals and perceive that we’re all a part of the identical human household. However to choose a couple of, I might say, , Eire and Scotland and Iceland are wonderful. Everybody of their lives ought to do an African safari.

 

You realize, I keep in mind sleeping out in the midst of the bush in Zimbabwe and waking up there’s lions 200-feet away and there’s monkeys swinging within the timber above us. And a honey badger actually crawled proper as much as my leg. And I keep in mind sitting on this berm overlooking this type of this hill and into sort of like a marsh and there was hippos and within the distance, there’s giraffes and rhinos. And it’s simply essentially the most surreal factor that… You begin to go go to all these individuals. What actually is cool goes and visiting the native individuals in all these locations, ? And also you begin to simply actually have a love for humanity. It actually drops any prejudices you’ve gotten.

 

I do know I went a few years in the past to Egypt with a good friend of mine. And he grew up there and his household nonetheless lives there. And we spent a couple of days with them after we went and noticed the pyramids and all that. And this household was, , a Muslim household. And I’m in Utah. We don’t have very many minorities, simply being trustworthy with you. You sort of worry what you don’t know and so that you’re all the time just a bit bit afraid of these individuals. And so going over there although and feeling their like to me. They usually introduced me into their properties and fed us and essentially the most wonderful meals and simply the best way they handled us and honored us was actually particular.

 

And I spotted, , all these stuff you’re afraid of in life, when you get close to them, you not are. And, , Brené Brown talks about this on a regular basis, leaning into individuals. Identical factor with animals. In truth, I’m an enormous shark man. I really like sharks. I like to swim with sharks. I’ve swum with 15 totally different species of sharks, together with bull sharks, tiger sharks, all this with out a cage. And when you’ve gotten a tiger shark coming at you, proper? I used to be in the midst of the Atlantic Ocean. It’s 15-feet lengthy. It’s this huge… It seems like a miniature bus coming at you, however you’re feeling its power towards you. And as an alternative of being afraid, you’re simply in amazement and surprise.

 

This factor lives right here on this physique of water and it’s developing and it’s simply curious, and it’s you and also you’re it. There’s no cage. It’s simply this alternate of power and love and it actually adjustments your view in the direction of most issues. And so, a part of what I educate, , the lads in my teaching program is we go do scary issues as a result of we’ve these irrational fears from what we’re advised to consider from society. You realize, the information media wants you to be in worry in order that they will, , promote. I imply, , worry sells and all these various things. And so what we attempt to do is by touring and by going and experiencing all this, it’s such a wonderful world on the market. And I feel that’s the great thing about touring.

 

Katie: I agree with you. I’ve thought with my very own children is, like, I do know I can look again and notice among the more durable occasions of my life helped me change into the particular person I’m right this moment. And but I don’t wanna deliberately create a tough life for my children. And journey’s sort of the right answer as a result of there’s quite a lot of inherent problem that comes together with journey. And such as you mentioned, you acquire a complete new perspective on humanity and on the world and the way we’re all a lot extra related and comparable than we frequently develop up after we develop up in a homogenous space. And so journey’s positively a core worth for us as nicely. Though you’ve gotten traveled to many, many extra locations, which is superior and provoking.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. You do quite a lot of problem-solving whenever you journey, to your level, , is attempting to determine issues out on the go and you may’t converse the language and also you gotta determine stuff and also you simply do. You simply find yourself figuring it out. However I really like that concept as a mum or dad to, , assist your children develop.

 

Katie: After which lastly, on my notes, I’ve a notice that you just’re the President of the Chris Farley Fan Membership. And I really feel like that wants some rationalization as nicely.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So me and my buddies, after we have been in highschool, I used to be a Sophomore in highschool when Chris Farley handed away, and we have been simply such huge followers. I imply, I needed to be Chris Farley. Most guys, , most children most likely needed to be an athlete or needed to be one of many film stars that was getting all the women. I needed to be Chris Farley. I simply thought he was the most effective ever. And so me and my buddies, the day he handed away, which is December 18th, really it was simply yesterday, was two days in the past, sorry, it was Chris Farley Day. December 18th was the day he handed away. So we might get collectively yearly and watch all his motion pictures.

 

After which one yr… You realize, I used to be all the time simply Googling Chris Farley wanting into issues. And I keep in mind one yr, again in perhaps 2002 or 2003, I Googled Chris Farley and there was a basis arrange by his brother, Tom, the place they have been elevating cash to assist, , maintain children off medicine. So I reached out to him and we began a relationship. After which a few yr later, two years later, Chris Farley obtained a star on Hollywood and we obtained invited out to return to it. And Tom mentioned, “Hey, I imply, you guys are principally the fan membership. Why don’t you come on out and are available to the star ceremony?”

 

And so we got here out, went to the occasion. It was very personal. I feel there was perhaps 70 individuals. I imply, we’re speaking it’s Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, David Spade, Tom Arnold, Gary Busey, the blokes from Paramount, his household, and us. And it was very intimate. And obtained to the star ceremony, went to the after-party, and frolicked with everyone. It was sort of a celebration, but in addition sort of somber. You realize, I keep in mind Adam Sandler simply being tremendous unhappy and… However then and we, yeah, turned the unofficial official Chris Farley Fan Membership that day. And so I turned the president of that.

 

We did an occasion a few years later right here in Utah the place, , his brothers got here in and we did this large occasion to lift cash for the muse. And we had, like, pizza and it was the meat lovers pizza within the trunk pizza part. We had the rooster wings. There was the Tommy likey, Tommy Need Wingy rooster wings. And had standup comedians come and performed all his motion pictures. And so I keep in contact fairly commonly together with his brothers to at the present time, had them on my podcast final yr. We discuss it on a regular basis. And only a particular little connection I feel to this man that I by no means met however have been in a position to create quite a lot of, , the enjoyment that I had as a child by life was by him. So I’ve sort of honored him that approach.

 

Katie: What a cool story.

 

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And as we get towards the top of time, one other query I like to ask is that if there’s a e-book or quite a lot of books which have had a profound impression in your life, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, I’m an enormous reader. And so I used to learn 50 to 100 books a yr for a very long time. That was most likely earlier than I began my podcast. That’s what I might do. Now I, , examine quite a lot of podcasts and podcast company so I can get individuals on my podcast. However I nonetheless learn fairly a bit. And I might say, if I may choose one e-book that each man ought to learn is named “The Manner of the Superior Man” by David Deida. David has personally been a coach of mine as nicely, however he’s, I imply, that e-book, simply nails, find out how to present up as a person.

 

However that’s one e-book that had an enormous profound change on my life. So many, however “Assume and Develop Wealthy,” , “The 4 Agreements,” these are all books that I attempt to learn at the very least as soon as yearly or two. After which something by Brene Brown is particular and teaches you find out how to love humanity just a little bit higher. And so, yeah, these are a few of my favorites.

 

Katie: And I do know that past a e-book, you’ve executed a lot on the earth we didn’t even get to speak about right this moment, together with quite a lot of work in actual property and a lot extra. So the place can individuals discover you on-line and continue learning about all of the stuff you’re doing?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. The most effective place to seek out me, my Instagram is @mrjimmyrex, and I put up every part that I’m doing on there. Anytime I’m talking, anytime I’ve occasions, my new podcasts that come out, any, , events that I’m internet hosting or throwing any charity occasions for this charity or others that I’m doing, I share on there. And so simply comply with me on @mrjimmyrex. That’s most likely one of the best ways. And be happy to achieve out anytime if I may also help in any approach. I’m superb at getting again to individuals in my DMs. I do all that myself and so completely satisfied to assist anyone if, , if there’s a necessity that I can assist you.

 

Katie: Thanks a lot. And like I mentioned, I’ll be certain we hyperlink to the entire various things we’ve talked about, particularly the organizations that individuals can assist if they will’t actively go do work on this space, in addition to to your entire locations that you just reside on-line. However Jimmy, thanks a lot for taking the time to be right here right this moment. You’ve gotten such an enchanting story and the entire adventures of your life. And I’m so grateful for you educating about this and for the work that you just’ve executed straight to assist with this drawback worldwide.

 

Jimmy: Effectively, thanks. It’s one thing that, , when you get into it and also you begin doing it, you notice how particular it’s, how particular to have the ability to assist these individuals which might be on this scenario. I imply, we even have gone in and seen the women being, , in these positions and we’ve been in a position to have the rescues. And it’ll change you and it adjustments you ceaselessly. And so it’s particular to me. It’s particular to have the ability to share about it and assist different individuals change into conscious. And so if I can ever do the rest to assist unfold consciousness, I’m all the time accessible. And thanks once more for having me on.

 

Katie: Thanks a lot for being right here. And thanks as all the time to all of you who’re listening for sharing your time, your power, and your consideration with us right this moment. We’re each so grateful that you just did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the following episode of the “Wellness Mama” podcast.

 

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